Judith Warner is the author of the new book, And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School. This book touches on the important role that this middle-grade period has in all our lives. When we invited her on the show, we were particularly interested in the way that we form friendships at that age and how that affects our life. We were also interested in talking about what writers of middle-grade books should know about that period.

We do talk about all of that, but we talk also about anxiety, perfectionism and OCD in the writing process, and we go personal on this. Meghan and I enjoyed the interview, and we found it really helpful to talk about these things with Judith.

If you’ve struggled with any of these things we discuss, please do get in touch with us – either through our website, on our Instagram or elsewhere.

Full show notes and episode are here.