Episode 43: Four Questions About Writing & Money

In Episode 43, we discuss the answers to four big questions about writers and money:

  1. What is a writer? (No joke – this wasn’t an easy one.)
  2. How/where do they make money?
  3. How much money do they make?
  4. Why are we talking about any of this?

This episode is a starting point from what we found out from our initial research – the knowledge base from which we start this Season 2 on money and writing and day jobs and quitting day jobs. In some cases, we talk about how hard it is to find answers – but even where there are no quick answers, we fill you in on the current debate in the writing and publishing world.

You’ll see that we have so many links in the show notes, so if you have time only to look at a few things we mention, here are our Top 5:

  1. Authors Licensing and Collecting Society 2018 survey
  2. This super-helpful Jane Friedman piece from 2018 about the issues with these income surveys
  3. The Tayari Jones interview for Authors Guild
  4. The Billfold post about how writing is not a job, and this response to it by Lincoln Michel
  5. Authors Guild Wages of Writing report for 2015

(Technically, that’s 6 – sorry.)

(Also, sorry for the bad quality of Olivia’s sound – it was a mic malfunction, which we will fix next week.)

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Theme music is “It’s Time” by Scaricá Ricascá.

 

In this episode

Authors Licensing and Collecting Society 2018 survey

A Guardian report about the earlier ALCS survey

Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Employment Statistics – Writers and authors category

BLS Independent Artists, Writers, and Performers industry statistics

BLS Occupational Outlook Handbook – writers and authors

Author’s Guild

Writers’ Guild of Great Britain

Society of Professional Journalists

American Society of Journalists and Authors

Jane Friedman piece about income surveys

Episode 40 from August with KJ Dell’Antonia

Her book How To Be a Happier Parent

Anna Quindlen

Jane Friedman again (“industry insiders” estimate 70% don’t earn out advance)

New York Times column by Michael Meyer also citing the fact that 70% of books don’t earn out their advances

Houston Chronicle on authors’ salaries

Olivia’s book Understanding and Addressing Suicide Attacks 

Tayari Jones interview for Authors Guild

Tayari Jones’s book An American Marriage – just longlisted for National Book Award!

BLS stats on postsecondary teachers

The crisis in adjunct benefits and wages – here and here

Billfold post about making more money publicizing the book than from writing the book itself

Laura Vanderkam on getting paid more and working less

Episode 36 with Jessica Lahey

The Billfold – how much freelancers make and writing is not a job

Response to this is the Billfold piece by Lincoln Michel (including how the genre world pays more)

Will Self talking about how the novel is doomed because his advances have fallen – in 2014 and again in 2018

Jonathan Franzen talking about doing less publicity

Oprah-Jonathan Franzen feud (beginning and how they made up over Freedom)

Tana French (and a New Yorker piece about her)

Who Pays Writers? website

Manjula Martin and her book Scratch

National Writers’ Union

n+1 editorial about how small magazines suffer from things like Who Pays Writers?

Author Earnings survey & results

Nielsen BookScan

Authors Guild Wages of Writing report for 2015

Episode 33 interview with publicist and poet Abigail Wellhouse