In today’s very candid episode, we discuss something that’s been popping up online recently — our pet topic and the reason for this podcast: writers’ day jobs. We talk about the visible invisibility of writers’ day jobs — why writers have day jobs, and why don’t they talk about them? Let us know what you think.

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Theme music is “It’s Time” by Scaricá Ricascá.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Write Now podcast’s Coffee Break episode with Ryan Dalton

Lauren Willig, including publicity about her day-job-writing lifestyle and her first novel, written while in law school and getting a PhD in history, The Secret History of the Pink Carnation

Jean Hannah Edelstein’s thread on Twitter

Jean Hannah Edelstein’s Tiny Letter

New York Times article about whether having a day job makes better art

The Lido author Libby Page on her day job (she’s since quit to write)

Scratch by Manjula Martin

Cutting humanities courses at University of Wisconsin

The Guardian article on modern slavery and the other Guardian piece on low salaries for artists

Article on writer Fiona Mozley, who started writing her book Elmet on her commute and Olivia’s blog post about it

Ctl Alt Del podcast interview with Greta Gerwig on being a multi-hyphenate and host Emma Gannon’s book The Hyphenated Life

The film Lady Bird

Someday, Someday Maybe by Lauren Graham

The Woman Upstairs by Claire Messud